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What are your sources on this Tracey? This sounds like something similar to Ptolemy, but I'm curious where you got it from. You have written a few articles lately where you cite wikipedia, but it appears that you are the author of all of those wikipedia articles. So I'm not sure where you are getting the information from so that I can categorize it. I suspect that you are reading some books by William Lilly, or based upon his work, right? Or maybe John Frawley? --Chris Brennan 15:24, September 28, 2005 (PDT)
Chris, if you have other sources that support the material please go ahead and list them under the references section. That would be a big help, and everyone who wants to improve the site should try to do that. When an AstrologyNotes member sees an article whose facts or views are supported by a published source they know of, they should go ahead and list the source. If there are different facts or views in their source, they can add to the article and list the source. It is not necessary to bring in the original author to do it, all members are empowered to improve articles both by building the content and the sources. Thanks Chris, for bringing it to our attention. --StarAlchemist 04:49, 29 September 2005 (PDT)
Well, I would just add it in if I knew the sources off hand, but I don't and that is why I'm asking. I'm only vaguely aware of this term that she is using as possibly coming from 17th century astrologers, but then the actual definition sounds like it might be from Ptolemy which is a completely different tradition, but I don't know, because I haven't read all of Ptolemy yet. Basically I was just asking her to cite whatever source she is using for this so that I can go back and investigate and do all of the hardwork to track down the history of this technique or term. I have no doubt that it is legitamate, its just that I don't have anything to go off of without any sources. --Chris Brennan 10:25, September 29, 2005 (PDT)
Well, then I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you like to make things difficult for yourself :). I just did a quick search on the internet and the definition given seems to be the one most commonly used. If you have a more obscure or ancient version you would like to put forth, please do so. If Tracy has a source to provide that is good too, otherwise I really do not see it as a problem. --StarAlchemist 10:46, 29 September 2005 (PDT)
Here, this might help in your research. The term is used interchangeably with Hyleg, and was Almochoden or Alcohoden to ancient Arab astrologers (according to this web site). It was mentioned in the book "Dictionary of Astrology" by Wilson (1819) according to this web site). The book "On the judgements of the Nativities" by Shoener translated by Hand, has some stuff on hylegs (I do not have the book, can't look it up for you). Sorry, that is all I can find right now. --StarAlchemist 10:59, 29 September 2005 (PDT)
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