Hi all!!

I was reading on the Wiki the Saturn opposite Midheaven description but could not find any info on it conjucting natal pluto, mars, and Saturn--could someone help me out?

Libra is on the cusp of my fourth house, hasn't entered yet, but I have already felt the effects of it immensely-- step father lost his job, my mother was diagnosed with diabetes, my brother lost his scholarship for NYU and I'm giving my family half my paycheck to save for their retirement. Meanwhile, I'm still trying to get my life together. I know things won't get better seeing as Saturn hasn't even entered my fourth house yet, but if you see my chart, having my natal pluto, mars and saturn there was extremely difficult for me growing up. Childhood traumas is an understatement.

Anywho, could anyone give me some advice on how to work with these transits? How I can ride the wave so that I don't drown? This is definitely forcing me to get my act together so that I can help my family, I just wish i was more prepared.

Thank you so much, Caro for the information and advice! I really need it!

I can't say things are looking up but things are definitely not worse...

I have to say that lately things are definitely popping up from my past and it all seems to be happening at once... people and events in my life are showing up like deja vu, like, I've seen this exact same thing happen before...

I dont know if you remember my previous post about a stressful manager I had that seemed to used manipulation tactics that activated my fourth house (his Libra sun activated my 4th house) but this person was killed on Saturday morning. He leaves a wife and 6 year old son behind and its gotten me thinking about when my own father was killed when I was 4. This 4th house stuff can be overwhelming, but its made me grateful that I survived that part of my life. I wish so much strength to his son and wife. Things like this really make you snap out of it to realize that if it doesnt kill you, it does make you stronger.

Hi Caro!

If I had to be blunt I would say I had no real childhood, I saw and went through five lives in just a couple years... too much responsibility and no appreciation... I've forced myself to parent myself and learn through philosophy and education and now astrology, what I wasn't taught by family... its very tough to do it on your own.

My relationships fluctuate... there is always someone around and I always connect deeply, but I like a challenge so I go after what I can't have... or what seems impossible. I guess we all want our own love story. The hardest part has been understanding my need for deep closeness (all the water in my chart) and great freedom (Gemini/Aqua)-- i confuse others and confuse myself!!! LOL Now I just make sure to use the need for closeness when its appropriate while making sure I have an outlet to freedom like my friends, my writing, making sure I leave time to myself and have my own life while giving my partner the same without freaking out. =) Being an adult is tough, but you also reap the benefits of that hard work in healthier relationships.

My old manager has a wife and son but was killed by strangulation by his lover (im still not convinced it was the lover) a lover who is transexual... he was staying over night with his lover when this same person woke up to find him strangled (odd story) and naked on the floor... the autopsy says there were no signs of struggle and the lover has not revealed a motive... This was a huuuge shock to everyone (family, coworkers, friends) who knew him for years, some as much ast 8, 10 and 12 years! He was a US Marine with a strong character who made his fair share of gay jokes, too... This manager was a libra/scorpio cusp... happened right before venus in scorp went retro... I guess the link between his story/issues and my own family/childhood would be the secrets and shame. Unfortunately, I went through some things as a kid (victim of anothers whim) that forced me to feel shame and want to hide myself... funny thing is that all along I saw shame in my managers eyes... I know shame... I never could confirm it until now, but I swear, he carried shame and now I know why. Homosexuality is nothing to be ashamed of, but he obviously didn't like that part of himself as he tried to hide it and lead a double life b.c of it... this entire story is very scorpio venus to me with the secrets, cross-gender, sex, etc. very interesting in an eerie way.

when you said you chose this life, what did you mean? Also, I see you're an Aqua sun, whats your moon and rising? =)

They are spamming again!!!! How rude!!! =(

Oh, the Virgo's... I have to say that the two signs I try to stay away from the most are Scorpio (no offense, i have two planets in scorpio myself) and Virgos, so hyper critical and I'm too sensitive to deal with it... But my step father is a virgo sun (he has sag moon, libra venus though) is a sweetheart and my one year old newphew (virgo sun, aqua moon) is so calm and happy, I hope he uses his virgo to help him be the best he can be as opposed to destroying himself by being so critical =( Pisces is hard, too... with my 12th house sun and venus I definitely know that my first instinct is to underestimate myself... sometimes I get a glimpse of clarity and I see that I shouldn't be so tough on myself, and thankfully I'm using that energy to change things about myself that I'm not completely happy with. I guess thats the point, to use the strength of each of our signs/planets to help us not destroy us... its just so haaard LOL

so you have a Pisces Moon and Venus with a scorpio rising, how is that for you with an Aqua sun? Are you more air influenced or more water?


"I think with your combo you can see. However pluto in libra is not well placed. something very deep with something very light and wanting to keep it nice(libra) . You would have to work with this and along comes a saturn transit so perhaps now you can................when describing you air signs you missed these 3 planets out!!!!!" Oh, yes, I can see alright. It's both a blessing and a curse. I have sun, venus, mercury, chiron and N Node in Gemini, Moon in Aqua, Pluto in Libra--lots of air! I do wish I had more fire, only uranus in Sag and thats no help! LOL