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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:15 am 
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Bobby and Sherrye you two are realy great and thank you for your help.

Sherrye :) yes, my problems began very early...when i was 15 years old my mother left me. My parents divorced, my father moved to another town (i didnt see my father 10 years), my mother married again and she moved to Switzerland.
I was lost, lonely and i miss safety, parents love etc. I have always felt that my mother didnt love me very much, she always repeat how my father and i are alike. I didnt see my mother a lot and when she come to visit me she didnt have a nice word for me or warm hug...and i miss that very much.
Then i meet my first boyfriend we were very young and i attached to him very much...that was wrong. I didnt want to leave him, he was doing very bad things to me and i didnt know how to defend myself...he beat me, one time he pee on me in front of my friends. In this time my depression started, i was so sad and i have a lot of pain inside i want to die. I started physicsly hurt myself, one day i went to far and i cut my veins. When i was 18 years old I have abortion and he do this intentionally (long story). After three years i finally left him.
Since then i have two seriously relationship and all this time i was receiving treatmanet for depression and panci attacks.
My last relationship has an important role in my life. I realy love this guy and he loved me...i felted. We are been together almost 6 years and we live together. On 30 September 2007 i left him...i dont know exectly why, but i did this and this was my mistake. I have always problem how to show my love to others and how to accept love. But this is only thing i want...I want love but when i recive love I dont know how to handle. After three months i told him about this, i told him that i love him but he didnt want me anymore. Now is dating my »friend«. She vas his friend too when we are been together. I never think that he could do something like that. She is very opposite with me im very feminen and she looks like a boy ...maybe he is helling his ego in this vay. I know i was his big love but he dont know that love is not just a fairy tale and if you realy love someone you must go over self and forgive things.
When my father die he was with me...my father change lock on his door, he lock himself and died in his flat. His neighbour called me...my father was death for three or more days in his flat, i must call police and firemans to break into my fathers flat...he was lying there all cold . Tough times. My boyfriends love save me this time and he will be in my heart for always.

Bobby :)
im thinking to move to other country for a while but first i must finish my school here.
On astro. com i read about my saturn square saturn in October 2009. What do you think about that? I dont know about astrology much but this is not good?
You write that will be a lots of changes in my life ...hope and expect the good one :) but in the other hand i have nothing more to lose....so why fear ;)

One more time, thank you!!! and sorry for my English :D
Love N.


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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:53 am 
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Bobbie, now i notice that i rename you (Bobby)... :sorry :)


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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:14 am 
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Hello Lily,

Don't worry about my name: it is my nick name from English people.

I am looking Progressions as they were the best for me, when some good change came into my life. That means, I am writing here from my own experiences.
As there are more Progressions for you, you will come easier through this Transit from Saturn. Everybody has bad Transits, but some of people are going through them without any harm. On the end after all you deserve it!

About your love: Venus square Neptune makes you blind about relationship. This is bad aspect and many people complain about love with Venus and Neptune. Even good aspects bring some confusion. I have Venus trine Neptune (is not on the Chart, as is over 8 degrees, but I have it) and I am some dreaming person: I am more in love with love than with a man.

There you have Venus conjunction Jupiter what is very good aspect. It can bring you some foreigner as a partner. Venus trine Saturn: you want to have one man for ever, but as I said, Neptune made this mess with your loves, as is doing with my health.

Rulers of your 7th (the house of marriage) Moon and ruler of your 5th (love, romances) Mercury: both have good aspects. Here is better Moon. I think that you will be luckier, when you get married.

About cutting veins: I am studying suicide and I don’t see it in your Chart.

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Bobbie


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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:39 am 
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Dear Lily,

I am glad that Bobbie has been able to help you with this. I think that she can understand many of the feelings you are going through.

I noticed that in the late 1980s (1987-1989), Pluto in Scorpio was squaring your Moon, which tore your home and family apart. At this time, the outer planets (Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune) were beginning to line up in Capricorn squaring your Mercury. So 1988 and 1989 were very hard years for you. Who did you live with when your mother left and your parents divorced? Did you ahve a relative to move in with back then?

A Saturn square Saturn transit may possibly be a good time for moving, but only if you complete what is left over from your past. Be careful, because with your Mars conjunct Saturn and your Aries Sun and Mercury, this could be an impulsive and emotional move if you do it at that time. You need to make a calm decision. The Saturn cycle is about 7 to 8 years, so make sure that you are finished with what you needed to complete since 2001 or 2002. Then you can begin to move on.

Whether you do or do not move, you look like you may move (or move again) in late 2011 (around December) or sometime in 2012.

Good luck! :angel

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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:19 am 
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hi,
i would like to ask you what do you think about this chart (natal/solar), this chart belongs to someone i love and one astrologer said that this is "hard" chart -depressions, suicide... Bobbie? But right now i think he is very good.

Sherrye, when my parents left me i was living alone (without my relatives or somebody else) and since than i take care about myself. This was a very good life school and im very independent now...but this is not so good for everyone (mans :))

Nice day
N.


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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:59 am 
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just solar chart!
why this one is so different like the first one (natal/solar)?


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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:04 am 
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Hi, Lily!

We'll see what Bobbie has to say about this. She will probably agree that both you and she have had much harder lives than this person has. But there is some potential for attempting suicide. I think it is more likely that if he gets too angry, he may take it out on others. But I am not saying that he is a bad person. He is just an emotional person.

This chart has some difficult aspect and there is some depression; this is true. Saturn conjunct the ascendant is a burden, and because it is also square his Mercury in Cancer, this person feels serious or responsible much of the time. He may often feel sad, and he may want to be alone. But because Jupiter is conjunct his ascendant also and square his Mercury, it shows he is generous. And with his Moon conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius, the combination shows that he wants to see the entire world become a better place. He wishes that people in the world could get along, and has good intentions. But yet with Moon conjunct Neptune and Jupiter square Mercury, he has to be careful of overdoing things to excess, like drinking or gambling. He has to beware of addictions or escapism.

His Moon conjunct Neptune may sometimes be depressed, but it may also often be spiritual. His mother or someone else in the family had either mental, emotional, or physical problems, and he may have had to take care of this person. He grew up feeling he always had to be the one to take care of scomeone else, and because he is a sensitive Cancer, he was able to do it, but because of his Moon in Sagittarius opposite Mars in Gemini, he may have resented it and wished he was free from all of this. There was conflict in his home life, maybe mostly with a man in the family. For a Cancer, the home should be a nest where someone can feel comfortable, but it did not feel that way when he was growing up.

Pluto square the Sun is also hard, especially with Pluto in the first house and the Sun in the 10th, and again shows a conflict with authority, or a conflict with a powerful person in the family. Because he has Venus in Leo and also Pluto in the first house, he may be very attractive, and he may have a magnetic personality. Also, with Mercury conjunct his midheaven in Cancer, he may have a way with speaking to people or communicating with them, and would be good in fields related to education or communication with different types of people. Sometimes emotions interfere with this work, however. But he is sensitive, and perhaps he is musical or artistic.

I think that the recent transits of Uranus and Saturn squaring his Mars opposite Moon and Neptune may have set off some emotional reactions and hard times in the home, or someone has left or passed away. These transits are not over yet. He may have become angry over everything that has been happening to him.

Although he can be kind, and often wishes good things for peopIe, he also resents other people sometimes, and may become jealous or possessive. I would recommend that you stay away from him when he is angry, or if he drinks. He may be fine when he is not emotional, but when he gets really upset you do not want to be around him.

I would like to see what Bobbie has to say about his chart.

Sherrye

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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:46 am 
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Hi Sherrye,
what do you think about progressed composite chart (for lovers) which have sun, mars, mercury, venus and saturn in 11 house...could this signify that this relationship will become more friendship and not love relationship anymore?

:) N.


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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:58 am 
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Hi, Lily!

That second chart you posted was not a solar birth chart, but it was a "soalr return chart" which shows influences for one year. (This one or next, depending which year it was done for.)

That composite chart you mentioned could either indicate friendship, or help with the relationship through groups or meetings of people. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: for bonita46
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:44 pm 
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Hi lily,

This Chart is one new school for me.

There are points about thinking of suicide, but there is also Jupiter in 12th as his angel guardian.

Now I will write, what for me was important before.

1st - Venus
8th – Mars: no connection. That is good.

1st - Venus
Sun - Moon - they are in trine. That is good.

What worries me here: there are also important 12th and 4th house.

12th - Mercury
8th - Mars – both are in conjunction. I don't like it.

4th - Saturn in conjunction with AC: that should be looked more carefully. I will try to find out, if there is some good point.

In some Charts I can see at the first sight, if there are some aspects of suicide.
My friend, she has also Saturn in the 1st house and she doesn't think about that, neither she is depressive.

Have a nice day,
Bobbie

p.s. About Solar of your friend: I always look Solar Return only and beside there must be Natal Chart. It means, they are separate


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