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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:47 pm 
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Hi again Sherrye and all,

I've recently started looking at solar arc charts. The distinction between a natal chart and transiting planets in aspect to natal planets. However, I am a bit confused how to integrate solar arc aspects into the picture. For example, here are three Sun/Uranus aspects from today, September 14, 2009:

natal SUN biquintile URANUS 0 degrees 39 minutes

transiting URANUS square natal SUN 9 degrees 34 minutes

solar arc URANUS square natal SUN 0 degrees 47 minutes

To simplify, if a natal aspect is the propensity we are born with and transits are what is 'hitting' us now, how does the solar arc fit in? I know that is is supposed to be 'predictive', but how is that different from the transit? I was never good at juggling more than two balls at once!


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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:56 pm 
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Hi, There! :-)

You said,

modes+nodes wrote:
I've recently started looking at solar arc charts. The distinction between a natal chart and transiting planets in aspect to natal planets. However, I am a bit confused how to integrate solar arc aspects into the picture. For example, here are three Sun/Uranus aspects from today, September 14, 2009:

natal SUN biquintile URANUS 0 degrees 39 minutes

transiting URANUS square natal SUN 9 degrees 34 minutes

solar arc URANUS square natal SUN 0 degrees 47 minutes

To simplify, if a natal aspect is the propensity we are born with and transits are what is 'hitting' us now, how does the solar arc fit in? I know that is is supposed to be 'predictive', but how is that different from the transit? I was never good at juggling more than two balls at once!



Well, I never got into Solar Arcs that deeply, although lately I've started to look at them in a new light. I used to look at them more or less as progressions that indicted periods in the life that would be reinforced by transits. I am now beginning to view them with deeper meaning, as pieces of Life Cycles that correspond to some extent with numerology.

Now, I would look at the transit, not just for today, but all around this period, to see what is being reinforced. Example: Say you have the POTENTIAL in your chart to learn through intuition, or to pick up information and react immediately, or a tendnecy to take risks, etc., as indicated by the natal biquintile. Then you have the solar arc squaring your Sun which may indicate an extreme reaction to something, or a risky behavior, or a shocking discovery. Then perhaps on top of that, although I don't have your chart in front of me, I would look at that transiting square from Uranus to your natal Sun which also occurred last spring and will occur again. If this is the first period when you've seen all three aspects together at the same time, you can assume something will be set off (although I would look at all of the transits first).

As I don't have your chart in front of me, and dont' have the signs and houses (etc.) I won't venture to guess what that will be. But if I used what I call an equal house solar birth chart for you, the transit would affect your 10th house if you are a Gemini, and your 4th house if you are a Sagittarius. So the Uranian changes are around either your career and status or your home and family, by that method, and the square will involve a shift in your perceptions and identity as an individual.

So I am using the transit as an additional way of timing the event to see if things are coming to a head. However, there is more that you can do wiht this, as these are often landmark periods in the life.

Hope that helps!



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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:58 pm 
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Well, that is an appropriate interpretation Sherrye! 8) Your description of the various Uranus aspects made perfect sense in a way that I could apply to my life at this moment.

I have always been a fairly intuitive person, and over these last six months my entire life has been in upheaval. An element of that has been a marked increase in my intuitive abilities that have bordered (or even crossed that ;) border at times) into the psychic realm.

By nature I am not a "gambler" but I am not fearful of taking a reasonable risk. This has also gone hand in hand with the turmoil in my life since March. I have been shocked at information I have discovered, both through investigation (Scorpio AC), and through synchronistic "luck". The latest "shocking" :shock: information stumbled onto my lap (via my laptop :))) ) about three hours after I posted this query yesterday!

I'm a Capricorn. Here is my birth info if you would like to put up my chart:
modes & nodes
December 26, 1957
Huntington, NY USA
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As you can see, I have had several hits from Uranus % Saturn and now I have tr Pluto||Mercury. This is a full time, big time, mental, emotional, and physical transformation period affecting every part of my life, beginning with the departure of the woman I loved :cry back in March. Up until that point, I would have described all in my life as being on an upswing, with all cylinders operating well. Since then, all, including career and income, have taken a nosedive. Quite frankly, this is the most difficult time I've ever had in my life, and it blindsided me. It feels like it came out of nowhere and hasn't let up, but for a few days here and there, ever since.

Do you think these Uranus transits are just a piece of this larger puzzle, bringing shocking discoveries, one after the other, to my attention? Are they the 'messenger', so to speak? I am unable to get a handle on what is at the core in my chart now. All the outer planets seem to be contributing to the feeling of chaos. I guess the question becomes: Which one is in charge? :fear


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:52 am 
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I brought up your chart on astrolabe and it seems as though you are going through a transformation with pluto very close to your mercury and sun conjunction in capricorn. That must be very tough on top of the uranus aspects. Your partner leaving could have been the start of your personal transformation so that something better can come along and take its place so that you can become the person your meant to be. Your life will look very different when this is all over especially in regards to what you value and how you make money and self esteem or how you value yourself since it involves the second house. Perhaps you will stumble on a way to make money or career that you are much more suited to.


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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:13 pm 
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Modes, I am sorry you are going through all of this. When our vibration and intuitive knowledge increases or becomes higher, some things around us fall by the wayside.

Yes, the one thing I left out in the previous post was the factor of change in the partner. If you use the degree and sign of the Sun as the ascendant and transiting Uranus is squaring the Sun, it is also squaring the DC in that kind of a chart. That's why I like to set up equal house solar birth charts, because you can get a clearer perspective on any aspect to the Sun. And a hard aspect to the Sun affects every angular cusp in the chart. So, you can usually expect either career change, change in the home, change in the partner, and in the Self... The Self is always affected.

let me point something out here:

I am glad that Curious discovered that you are also undergoing a Pluto transit. This is the actual source of what is going on. Note that this is another transit that is affecting your Sun, and that in the type of chart I was describing, it also affects all angular cusps. Pluto conjuncting your Sun and Mercury is deepening your awareness and perception, but also temporarily making the world a darker place. (Transits are temporary, but they do affect and change us.) With Pluto, it often seems like you cant fight it. Can't fight the "System", can't fight the Universe, etc.

Although you may have felt the transit of Uranus a bit last June or July, especially with a reinforcement of the Solar Arc, it isn't quite in aspect yet. I would not see the square as developing significantly until next year. particularly in June and July. From then on, shifts and abilities may occur with greater frequency through about 2013. (I understand from many sources that our vibrations are changing, and I have felt that myself.)

Modes, as George Harrison once said, "All Things Must Pass". And as King Solomon said, "This too shall pass". That's one great thing about watching transits. We can see the cycles and the passages, and we can see when situations arrive and when they pass out of orb.

I will repost your chart below.

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Does anyone else have any helpful comments for Modes and Nodes?

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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:03 am 
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Modes,

You said:

modes+nodes wrote:
Do you think these Uranus transits are just a piece of this larger puzzle, bringing shocking discoveries, one after the other, to my attention? Are they the 'messenger', so to speak? I am unable to get a handle on what is at the core in my chart now. All the outer planets seem to be contributing to the feeling of chaos. I guess the question becomes: Which one is in charge? :fear


I do think that Pluto is at the core, and the hits from Uranus are secondary.

This may seem like a strange recommendation, but I would look into books by Eckhart Tolle, particualrly "A New Earth". It is not an astrology book, but it is a way of viewing Life and viewing yourself during times of crisis.

You're going through a rebirth, and these things are not easy. Keep posting, because I want to know how you are.
I jump from chart to chart, and do not always remember to come back to a post, so you need to remind me sometimes.

Take care! :angel

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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:45 am 
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Hey Sherrye,

I just ordered that book you recommended. Used books are a great thing!

Yea, I agree that Pluto is really having an effect. Along with that the personal planets triggered a significant event today. I worked at a place for ten years, got laid off and rehired for less money last month, complained to a fellow employee about how poorly I was treated a few days ago, and got fired again today! He had commented on my remarks to my boss, thinking he was being helpful that I was upset. To say the least, it was not interpreted in the way it was intended.

The chart I did for this event is real ugly! Uranus is, of course, opposing Saturn, but also Sun, Moon, and Mercury. This opposition forms a t-square with Pluto. How that effected my natal chart is as follows; transiting Sun, Moon, Mercury, Saturn, and Uranus all square my natal Sun and Mercury. Tr. Sun, Moon, Saturn, and Uranus were all square Saturn. In addition, tr. Venus was square Mars and the AC while opposing the Moon and conjunct Pluto.

All this while Tr. Pluto inches closer to it's conjunction with Mercury and the Sun.

I do appreciate your concern Sherrye. Having a Pisces Moon, I have always had a sensitive side. But these last few months have had me alternating between metaphysical epiphanies and emotional depths, neither of which I have ever experienced before in my life. It is as if my stoic Capricorn self abandoned ship last spring and my Scorpio AC and Pisces Moon have been struggling to see which one can get the biggest reaction from my soul ever since. There is this yin yang of enlightenment co-existing with bouts of torment that exhausting.

I've never had a problem sleeping until now. I never had any sort of eating/appetite disorder until now. I've lost 33 pounds in these last few months. I can't quite figure out how such a dramatic and fundamental shift can have occurred at 51 years of age. I see it astrologically, but I am amazed at how tangible this all is.

I accept that change is upon me. I am not attempting to fight this transformative time period. Unfortunately, I don't have a clue what form the transformation should take. Time will tell.

Again, all input is very appreciated. Your kind words do have a powerful effect. How one expresses their point is absolutely as important as the truism itself.

modes
btw: if you want to see the event, here's the info:
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9/18/2009 4:30PM
Plainview, NY


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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:42 pm 
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I'll try to look into this a bit more for you.

Notice how the Virgo lineup of this transit hit your Part of Fortune. However, I think you also have a couple of midpoints hiding in there; perhaps Uranus/Neptune or Uranus/North Node.

The loss of weight and the physical changes are mostly due to the experience of the Pluto transit. SImilar to the tranist of Pluto over your ascendant, it transforms you physically. Uranus is what is disrupting your sleep in addition to Pluto.

The Pluto transit would also affect career change, relationship change, change in home and family...As I said, if we use your Sun as the ascendant in an equal house chart, then transiting Pluto becomes conjunct your Sun/AC, opposite your DC, and square your MC and IC.

I have found that after the difficult part of a Pluto transit you can use the energy to reform and rebuild. For example, if it has torn you down physiclaly, you can use it to help rebuild your strength, tone your muscles, change your diet...Instead of going back to the way you were eating before Pluto interfered, change the way you are eating, and get healthy. Instead of just trying to gain weight back once Pluto has subsided, gain muscle through exercise. Don't take out the anger and frustration that Pluto brings on yourself. Use it in your phsyical exercise (develop a program). You need to channel the energy so that it does not become self destructive.

Good luck, and be well.

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 Post subject: Re: natal/transit/solar arc aspects
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:49 pm 
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Hi, Modes!

I've been busy doing charts for people who are also in need at this time. It is a time of crisis for many.

However, it seems to me that when Jupiter is conjunct your Moon and IC in Pisces and opposite your Pluto and MC in VIrgo, you may be able to make some real headway intuitively and psychically.

Try to put yourself in a healing situation of some kind between January 18th and February 5th of next year. Perhaps a trip, a workshop, course or meditation group, a series of healings....And focus intuitively on your highest vibrations, wanting the best not only for yourself, but for everyone around you. Focus the core of that energy through yourself.

Complementary therapy is a great idea, as Caro pointed out. Tuning into Nature, particularly by the water, would be very good for you. You need time for reflection, even literal reflections in the water, and reflective moonlight at times.

Try to intuit what it is that you will need for yourself during that period, and where you should be during that time. This may be a time that Jupiter draws power of Pluto into the personal experience of the Moon.

Best of luck!

Sherrye (PS--Keep yourself in Positive Light. Don't allow dark thoughts to interfere. )

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