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 Post subject: Hello Again
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:54 pm 
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Hiya Sherrye
Hope you have been doing well. Well I am back to revisit at least some of my question. Wanting to see if you can look at this through fresh eyes. It appears the hold that my friend had on my is lifting (thank God) but I am wondering what to expect now. What transits am I, Them, and us are going through. What can we expect from them. Your insightfulness is always appreciated. My Birth time 3/29/1977 1:04am other 4/10/1968 2:25pm both OKC, OK. Thanks so much and look forward to hearing from you.


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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:52 am 
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Here are the charts I had saved for you. I will try to get to them later to review the transits. Any comments, anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:15 pm 
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Hello Ariesgurl,

I had time to look at your chart, and not your friend's this time. However, it's your chart that is important.

Transiting Uranus in Pisces and transiting Saturn in Virgo are beginning to play around with your life at this point. Many surprises are coming your way...Changes in relationships may be a part of it.

I like Jupiter trining your Moon next year, while it is nearly squaring your AC and DC at the same time. You usually have an inner emotional conflict between your upbringing (condiitoning) and the type of relationships you seek with people, but this transit of Jupiter to your Moon may help you to communicate your feelings appropriately with the right person or people. You'll see this in April, but even more so in October of next year (2010), when Mars in Scorpio creates a nice trine from your social 11th house. URanus will be back and forth squaring your AC and DC at that time, so this will potentially bring positive highlights to an existing relationship or bring some kind of new relationship or partnership in. (Best friends may also be partnerships, so keep that in mind.) This may work out well in a "home" or "moving" situation also. By Christmas of 2010 (or late December) there may be a big commitment with people and living situations, but also with your life path in general. Career as part of a life path may be highlighted.

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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:36 pm 
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Hiya Sherrye
I actually had the time messed up for my friend. I have no idea if this makes a difference in how she is or who she is but all the dates and places are the same but it is not 225pm it is 645am. Can you please let me know what if any difference in her personality or in her dealings in life makes a difference.

Also I wanted to see if you do like interpretations on children. I want to post my childrens charts on here to see what info I can get on them. If thats ok. Please let me know. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:21 pm 
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Hi, Ariesgurl!

Yes, that will make an enormous difference in your friend's chart. That's a huge time difference.

I'll run the new chart, post it, and see if we can get some comments. Good thing I didn't get into the interpretation for your friend in the last post! I've been so busy with charts.

Speaking of busy, we can post your children's charts, and see if anyone would like to comment. I can do bits and pieces here and there, but of course (as you know) we don't do full interpretations here. We point out what seems to be significant, espeically from a learning point of view. :-)

So, yes, send the birth information for your children, and when I can, I will run the charts and post them.

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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:30 pm 
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Here is the new chart for Ariesgurl's friend. IF this time of birth is correct, it really puts a different spin on her friend's personality, with so many planets squeezed into the 12th house (look at that stellium), and one or two of the remainder just about opposite them.


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If anyone wants to comment, go ahead. I've answered many questions for Ariesgurl, and I'm sure she would appreciate input from other people.

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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:59 am 
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It seems as though your friend is having a hard time of it as pluto is in capricorn and is squaring chiron and venus in aries at the moment. It is as though her/his 12th house is getting a spring clean and things are being brought out into the open and things been taken away and will be happening for a few years to come as it goes through her/his stellium so that they can become the person they are meant to be.
Chiron is conjunct venus so perhaps she carries hurt from her past that is effecting the way that she values and loves herself. This may have led to he/she having people in her life that arent good for them. Pluto sometimes works by throwing people into situations until they are so sick of the way things are and they break away and rebuild a better life for themselves. I guess how it works will depend on the life situation


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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:57 pm 
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What an excellent interpretation of that transiting aspect, Curious! :-) And yes, it has a lot to do with the interaction with others in all kinds of relationships, attachments to others vs. understanding the self, and attempting to break away while sometimes holding on at the same time. So relationships with people, which have always been difficult for this person to begin with, have been affected. And as an aside, the comforts of life in general (and income) may have been affecte dto come degree during the transit, as Venus is sometimes associated with that, and Uranus opposite Venus and Chiron is in the 6th house of work and service 9which is also health).

Now this Pluto transit could have begun to affect this person's Venus/Chiron conjunction as early as March of 2007 (perhaps earlier). Pluto again made close contact to the opposition in December of 2007 and into 2008, where it may have been particuarly intense. (We seen inconjuncts from transiting Saturn in Virgo to the Venus/Chiron in 2007 and 2008 as well.) And although retrograding Pluto may have backed far enough off of the aspect in August of 2008 to relieve the tension, it then turned direct again, so it never really left. By October of that year it really gained strength in the aspect, and was back in Capricorn by November. And we can see where this led in 2009 as Pluto more directly squared the Venus itself as it moved back and forth. It has never left that aspect, really.

Although Pluto has been approaching and retrograding all around this square since about March of 2007, notice that this person's Uranus at 26 Virgo is opposite her Chiron and Venus in the early degrees of Aries (an "out of sign" aspect). So Pluto may have touched off the opposition evern sooner, as it was in Sagittarius squaring this Virgo Uranus.

My feeling is that the past couple of years so so have been VERY hard on this person emotionally and psychologically, and perhaps even physically. This person could have hurt herself, or made herself literally sick, but the source was emotional and psychological pain. She may have isolated herself, or she may have had to go into some kind of hospital or program such as a rehabilitation program. Perhaps she required medication, etc.

Yes, it's very possible that relationships with people have been transformed, either through death or "break up" or other forms of separation. it's possible that some relationships went to dark or angry places, or there was jealousy and possessiveness, or that things were sexualized in a darker sense of the word. It's a difficult square, and with Uranus involved in an opposittion to an already sensitized and painful Venus and Chiron conjunction in the 12th, there may have been extreme and sudden departures that led to even suicidal impulses. This has been very, very hard on this person, yet because of the 12th house involvement, they may not have expressed the extent of their pain soon enough.

There may be some relief for this person in June and July of 2010, while Jupiter enters Aries and passes over her Chiron and Venus, hopefully in a healing way that promotes an enlightened level of consciousness to those locked up 12th house planets. 12th house planets CAN see the light in different ways. But then in July, as Jupiter hangs around those planets and retrogrades back over them, Pluto makes another pass through that square aspect which continues through August and September. Perhaps that retrograde and direct motion will not be felt as strongly as the previous ones if this person has been helped sufficiently, but we don't know. This pass seems to indicated a purging and release which combined with Jupiter, may be quite different, particularly in early August when Mars in Libra is opposite the Chiron and Venus in Aries. Let's hope this is truly a healing circumstance rather than anything else, as there is some danger to how this person may bring this about. They may want to exterminate the ego through exterminating the attachment to the other in their own heart. The best way to do this is to find closure by rising above it all.

Sherrye

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 Post subject: Re: Hello Again
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:34 am 
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Thanks curious and sherrye for your interpretations. Very interesting. I have been trying to be there for this person as much as I can but as I'm sure you already know they don't quite express their feelings so readily. I know its hard bc they tell me about some of the problems especially relationship but they express it as all out confusion. Don't know what to do. Which way is up type of thing. Just a tiny bit frustrating. :dash. But I will continue to be there as much as I can. It seems to me any steadiness in their life is helpful now. Thanks again.


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