My husband was involved in an auto accident about 18 months ago. No one was seriously hurt. There were 5 people in the car that he hit. He was coming out of a side street and crossing over this busy street to continue on the same street. He was at a stop sign and looked both ways, didn't see anything, then started across the street. As he approached the middle of the intersection, a speeding car came out of nowhere and he hit the back end of it. The car spun out of control and hit another vehicle and flipped over. All 5 people in that other car, walked out with not a scrape on them. It was considered his fault because he had a stop sign and the other car had the right of way. Now 18 months later they are suiing the insurance company. As our policy was the bare minimum, the insurance company lawyers have sent us numerous letters suggesting that we get our own lawyer to protect our personal assets. His chart data is:
10/29/1960
6:04AM
Norristown, PA
I keep looking thru his chart and then mine and I'm not sure if there is anything to be worried about or not. Of course, anything can happen. Which house would govern legal issues such as this? He has transiting Pluto conjunct his Jupiter in the third house. Pluto rules his second and is natally in his eleventh. Jupiter rules his third. Transiting Saturn is opposite his Moon, conjunct Pluto. Transiting Neptune is squaring his Mercury. Transiting Jupiter is opposite Mars and will conjunct his IC.

His Father is very ill and has been for some time. I think that transiting Saturn opposite his Moon, conjunct Pluto may be related to his Father, as Moon and Saturn rule his Mc/IC Axis.

Would a particular planet be involved with legal issues. Maybe Pluto transiting his Jupiter?

Thanks for your input.

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Rene

Hi Rene,

I only have time for a quick reply just now. The 3rd house governs cars and short trips. Jupiter is in his 3rd natally, trine Uranus, and Jupiter rules the 3rd. Also, Saturn resides in the 3rd. Therefore, I doubt this is the first time he has ever had issues with cars. It looks like he might have a company car, or use a car for business? Anyway, he is likely to have surprising legal or business issues with cars and commuting all his life. These are not necessarily bad events though, because although his Jupiter is in its Fall (a bad position), it is also at 0 degree and not peregrine. In other words, it has a little bit of dignity, not great but not awful either. Sagittarius does govern legal issues, so most of the legal stuff he encounters will likely be 3rd house stuff like cars, siblings and neighbors.

Did the event occur around Jan 15 2007? Pluto was conjunct Mars and both conjunct his Jupiter at the time. Then it retrograded. Earlier this year, Pluto conjuncted his Jupiter, which indicates the suit brought so long after the accident. The issue may not be resolved until December when Pluto once again conjuncts his Jupiter.

Thank you Staralchemist so much for looking at his chart. The accident happened November 29, 2006. He used to have a company truck for years, and that is part of the problem. When he had the company truck, we didn't have a lot of insurance on his personal truck because he didn't use it that often. Once he no longer had the company truck, and he began to use his own truck, we never thought to increase the insurance on his personal truck. He has not had a lot of accidents, actually this is his only one in 30 years. He is a big car buff. He loves cars and trucks and is obsessive with them. He cleans and waxes his car and truck faithfully every week. If he could, he would collect old muscle cars, however, we have no place to store them. He has been a car phanatic all his life and has had many beautiful cars.

Funny you should mention legal stuff with cars, and neighbors. He did have an issue with our neighbor over some bushes that died, and the neighbor took him to court. Actually, the bushes died because they were choked out by the poison ivy branches and weeds and brush, but he insisted that my husband killed them. Whatever, he had to split the cost of putting more bushes in its place with that same neighbor. So the outcome was not bad. Nothing with siblings though, he has 2 and thinks they walk on water.

How about the outcome of the lawsuit - there were 5 people involved in the accident and 2 vehicles. All 5 are looking for pain and suffering and like I said the policy totally isn't worth a lot, only 100k. Of course they all want more than what its worth. We keep getting letters from the Attorney's for the Insurance company telling us to contact our personal Attorney to ensure we protect our assets. From looking at his chart, with Pluto coming back to conjunct his Jupiter, could the outcome be that we have to fork out hundreds of thousands of dollars that we don't have(by getting a loan)? I think Jupiter could mean that it could be big $, or that it could be favorable for my husband, I can't tell. The suits are all pending in court. If it were favorable to him, whereby the courts settled within the limits of the policy and we didn't have to pay anything out of our pocket, would that be indicative of Pluto conjunct Saturn? Would I see that in my chart as well (November 18, 1958, 10:33 am EST, Norristown, PA) I do have transiting Saturn conjunct my Pluto, with Pluto natally in my 8th house and ruler of my 10th. Not sure as I am worried about my job and now this lawsuit, and trying to look objectively at your own chart isn't easy. Sometimes you see what you want to see.

Thank you again, for taking the time to respond. You write in such a manner that it is so easy to understand. I love reading your replies to the folks in the forum. You are so thorough and accurate with just about every one of the interpretations that I have read.

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Rene

Hi Rene,

You are most welcome, thank you for the kind words. I am happy to help if I can. Nov 29th makes sense, as that is about when the aspect came into orb, but not yet exact. I had not considered that Jupiter would indicate larger vehicles (truck) or a large quantity of vehicles, but of course that fits quite well, LOL. Accidents would be indicated by Mars or Pluto aspects to his 3rd house ruler, which is happening now, so the fact that this is his only accident indicates to me that he handles this energy very well and on the whole it takes quite a lot for such energies to create bad circumstances for him (a conjunction by Pluto is very rare). So cheer up, his luck in these matters is generally good.

The most important thing I must stress here is that your father must not try to circumvent the system, lie, or do anything illegal. Pluto delights in digging up the dirt and throwing it back in your face. Pluto is a very impersonal, generational influence. I have seen Pluto in circumstances where an individual becomes a scapegoat for society (you would think it would be Neptune, but Neptune is more involved in emotional issues or disintegration rather than legal and societal problems). For example, what Martha Stewart did was not at all unique for her circle of people. But when Pluto entered a 3 degree orb of Martha's Moon in the 2nd house, she was convicted of something she did years before. By the time Pluto was conjunct her Moon she was dealing with jail time. What she did was illegal, no question, but her punishment was a result of making her a scapegoat for all those many other well connected people who got away with it without consequence. Had she not lied, the whole thing would probably just have just resulted in money loss.

So, hopefully your father has not lied or done anything illegal. If he has not, then the prospects are better. Specific questions like "what is the outcome of the lawsuit?" is not answerable by natal astrology. Since you asked, I went ahead and drew up a quick horary chart for the time of your post. You should not rely on the following information, instead you should use it as a stepping stone for more investigation and preparation.

* It appears that there is a powerful person (probably female) involved who is confused or distraught due to the influence of her lawyer or the legal system. She is not an evil person, but she is motivated by protecting her family and providing security. The person who is named as the opposition is probably not her, it could be her son or a young person.
* The opposition's lawyer is not good, he (or she) is either inexperienced, inept or has no evidence. He is being deceptive and may be outright lying to your father's lawyer (if he does not have a lawyer yet, your father must get one). Of course, there could be more than one lawyer for the opposition, in which case this might not apply to both of them.
* The ruler of the father's lawyer shows he (or she) is an excellent choice, conjunct Regulus in Leo, represented by Mars, he will fight for your father with superior abilities and your father can trust him (or her) completely. If your father has not obtained a lawyer, this is the kind of person he should look for.
* Despite all that, the opposition is very strong, stronger than your father. I think your father will lose the suit. But your father's lawyer has a good chance of managing to get a relatively good outcome for your father. Everything depends on your father's lawyer, because the opposition actually has more strength in the situation and their lawyer sucks.
* Your father may not have to go into debt. If the lawyer gets what he is working for, then your father will have enough to pay it. I can't say whether he will have to sell his cars, or what he might have to do, but he already has whatever is necessary to pay the debt that will be assigned to him. You (the daughter) will not have to pay anything, from what I can see.
* There will be some kind of surprising twist in the case, concerning a paper or communication of some kind.
* I get the impression somehow that both parties win here. The end result should be fair for everyone concerned.

HTH!

Thank you StarAlchemist. I never thought to run a horary chart. I had learned about them some time ago, but that didn't cross my mind. I am so caught up in this whole issue. It is my husband, not my father who was involved in the accident. There are 3 opposing lawyers involved here that represent 5 of the folks that were in the other car. So you are right on with the opposition. My husband is honest abe, he wouldn't dream of being dishonest. Losing the suit and having the insurance pay out the value of the policy would be ok, I guess. The facts are that the car my husband hit, was speeding and none of these folks were hurt and they shouldn't get anything, but it would be better to pay out the value of the policy then for us to have to sell our personal assets and go into debt. It makes you very anxious when you have something like this hanging over your head.

Thanks again for your insight.

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Rene

I don't know how I managed to confuse your father and husband!

Well, that changes the horary reading, of course. Your husband (represented by Mercury) is stronger than his opponent(s) (represented by Jupiter). However, the last aspects made by the Moon represent an unclear outcome because the Moon simultaneously opposes Pluto and sextiles Mars.

If I turn the chart to determine the judge's verdict, the tenth house from the 7th (which is the original 4th house) represents the judge and judgement for the case. The ruler of the 4th is Jupiter (also the opponent's significator). There is no aspect from Mercury to Jupiter. So it still looks like your husband could lose the case. However, the 10th house represents the judgment as well (from the point of view of the opponent, and also from an objective view) and this is ruled by Mercury. So I get the impression that it will be a fair judgement but both sides will think the other side was favored.

You might want to try doing a horary yourself, or asking a horary expert. But don't make an important decision based solely on a horary reading, it is just to help you understand the situation better.

Quick note, Rene --

Your husband should have had better lawyers. My brother and his daughter were in a similar accident, and after stopping at a stop sign and looking both ways, a young man driving on the street they were entering plowed into him. They considered HIM to be at fault because my brother was at the stop sign. It seems the law took the convenient route with your husband, because so many people were involved. Or in my brother's case, perhaps they favored a father and child over a young man with a new license.

You mentioned transiting Pluto to Jupiter. Although transiting Jupiter to Pluto could bring monetary success legally, the opposite, transiting Pluto to Jupiter, may turn out to be a wall of authority that does not to listen to the legal process very well. As Staralchemist said, he might not be able to win this case, unfair as it seems, or it might be a real struggle to win that is not worth the time or expense. Still, ther may be more there to be considered in the charts.

I wish him the best.

Sherrye

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